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转去《今日俄罗斯》4月11日的一次电视访谈，题目是《“美国不想要一场战争——他们想要北朝鲜政权更迭”》，受访者是美国反战联盟“行动起来阻止战争并终结种族主义”组织（Act Now to Stop War and End Racism [ANSWER]）的主任布莱恩·贝克（Brian Becker）。贝克在接受访谈时，分析了目前朝鲜半岛紧张形势的根源，认为美国政府为了服务于美国军工资本财团的利益而对北朝鲜采取帝国主义战争政策，蓄意制造半岛的紧张局势；目前看是借机离间中朝同盟关系以颠覆北朝鲜现政权，实质是服务于围剿中国的长期战略图谋。
站在中国人的角度聆听这次访谈，远在大洋彼岸的美国进步政治活动家对美帝国主义处心积虑实施围剿中国战略图谋的洞见值得国人警醒。例如：
《今日俄罗斯》问：在朝鲜半岛保持一个‘危险的’北朝鲜以便为再平衡亚太地区找到借口，难道不正是美国的利益所在吗？
布莱恩·贝克答:确实如此。自奥巴马总统赴澳大利亚宣布所谓的‘亚洲枢纽’以来，美国正在把它的战机、携核战机、一大部分海军力量部署在太平洋地区。当然他们需要挑衅，他们需要（制造）紧张。这对生意有利，它使得巨量利润持续不断地进入军工复合体，却又给予五角大楼借口，去干它想要干的即基本上包抄围剿中国的借口。
因此，站在中国人的角度聆听和报道这次访谈，它的确切的主题无疑应该是：《美国社会政治活动家警告：美国在朝鲜半岛玩火，意在围剿中国》。
全部访谈内容翻译如下：
《今日俄罗斯》问：北朝鲜继续保持它同南韩的战争边缘政策。我们目前离一场核摊牌有多近？
布莱恩·贝克答：我想我们可以看到，而且我想美国人民并不知道这点，因为铺天盖地而来的宣传战在美国一直是相当有效的。奥巴马当局不同于第二届任期最后几个月的克林顿当局，后者那时试图同北朝鲜关系正常化，派了时任国务卿奥尔布赖特去会见金正日。（双方关系）似乎有所解冻。奥巴马当局已经把小布什当局挑衅、升级、增加紧张的政策使用到了一个全新层级。
世界上没有一个地方比朝鲜半岛更加军事化，更像一个火药桶。美国在那里驻扎了两万五千人的军队；美国刚刚把可发射核弹的B-52轰炸机调遣到那里，看上去要轰炸北朝鲜。美国，两周前调遣去的B-52轰炸机可以投掷三万磅炸弹或核弹。它刚刚给了南韩两百颗巨型地堡炸弹。它以使之对北朝鲜愈加不祥的方式改变了它同南韩联盟的军事状态。
每一次北朝鲜做出任何举动表明其防卫自身的决心或者至少令人感觉到它能够防卫自己，那时美国就把北朝鲜当作罪大恶极的捣蛋者来对待。所以双方在世界上非常紧绷的地方攀爬上逐步升级的阶梯，而且我想我们处在非常危险的节点。目前任何事情都可能触发某种限度而且会迅速升级的军事冲突。
《今日俄罗斯》：谁该为当前的局势承担责任？
布莱恩·贝克：我想奥巴马当局已经设计出一种政策，即意在实施北朝鲜的政权更迭，我想这是疯了，因为北朝鲜政府已经表明它将不走东德被合并的路、被它的国家亲西方的另一半吞并的路。于是我们看到一种日益上升的对峙。奥巴马当局不想要一场战争，他们想要实施一场政权更迭。这就是为什么他们施加了这些日益升级的经济制裁。
《今日俄罗斯》：他们认为不假手战争的政权更迭将怎样发生？
布莱恩·贝克：他们想要给中国制造压力以使中国断绝它同北朝鲜的历史（盟友）关系。通过制造一种军事对峙或近乎对峙，美国正在对中国人说，看看吧赌注非常高了，是时候了你要做出改变，是时候了你要抛弃你在北朝鲜的盟友。而且，我想，他们认为那会是指令，是北朝鲜政权更迭的前兆，如果他们能将中国离间开来。中国不想这样做，虽然你可以看到在中国体制内目前正在展开一场争论。
《今日俄罗斯》：北朝鲜应该关注先发制人的袭击吗？
布莱恩·贝克：我们从南韩军方那里可以看到，南韩军方内部也存在着分歧、辩论和内讧。它（南韩）有过长达三十年的军事独裁专政。它屠杀了所有的进步人士、共产党人。它说它终将把北朝鲜从共产主义之下解放出来。南韩军方内存在着煽风点火、兴风作浪的派别。在制造更多的紧张局势上，他们有着经济利益和哲学的或意识形态上的利益。当然人口中的大部分倾向于和平或者一条通向统一的和平之路而不是没完没了的战争。
《今日俄罗斯》问：在朝鲜半岛保持一个‘危险的’北朝鲜以便为再平衡亚太地区找到借口，难道不正是美国的利益所在吗？
布莱恩·贝克答:确实如此。自奥巴马总统赴澳大利亚宣布所谓的‘亚洲枢纽’以来，美国正在把它的战机、携核战机、一大部分海军力量部署在太平洋地区。当然他们需要挑衅，他们需要（制造）紧张。这对生意有利，它使得巨量利润持续不断地进入军工复合体，却又给予五角大楼借口，去干它想要干的即基本上包抄围剿中国的借口。
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‘US does not want a war - they want regime change in North Korea’
Russia Today，Published time: April 11, 2013 03:41
http://rt.com/op-edge/us-wants-regime-change-nkorea-665/
The Obama administration has adopted a policy of provocation and escalation when it comes to North Korea, Brian Becker, the director of the anti-war coalition ANSWER told RT, the ultimate goal of the approach is not war but regime change.
RT: North Korea continues to maintain it's on the brink of war with the South. How close are we now to a nuclear show down?
Brian Becker: There is no place in the world that’s more militarized and more of a tinder box than the Korean Peninsula. The US has 25,000 troops there, the US has brought in the B-52 nuclear capable planes to simulate the bombing of N. Korea. The US, two weeks ago brought the B-2 bomber which can drop 30,000 pound bombs as well as nuclear bombs. It just gave 200 bunker buster bombs to South Korea. It’s changed the military shape of its alliance with S. Korea in a way making it more ominous to N. Korea.
And every time N. Korea does anything to show its determination to defend itself or to make the perception at least that it can defend itself, then the US treats N. Korea as the ultimate provocateurs. So both sides have climbed the escalation ladder in a very tense part of the world and I think we’re at a very dangerous point. Right now anything could trigger some limited military conflict which could quickly escalate.
RT: Who's responsible for the situation ending up where it is now?
BB: I think we can see, and I think the American people don’t know it, because the thorough going propaganda campaign has been quite effective in the United states, but the Obama administration, unlike the Clinton administration in the last months of the second term where it tried to normalize relations with Korea, sent Madeline Albright then Secretary of State there to meet Kim Jung-il. There seemed to be a thaw. The Obama administration has taken the Bush administration policy of provocation, escalation, increased tensions to a whole new level.
And I think the Obama administration has designed a policy that’s intent on carrying out a regime change in N. Korea, and I think this is crazy because the N. Korean government has made it clear that it won’t go the way of East Germany to be incorporated, to be swallowed up by the pro- Western, second part of its country. And now we see a growing confrontation. The Obama administration does not want a war they want to carry out a regime change that is why they had these enhanced economic sanctions.
RT: How do they think it is going to happen without war?
BB: They want to create pressure on China to break China away from its historic relationship with N. Korea. By creating a military confrontation or near-confrontation, the United States is saying to the Chinese, look the stakes are very high, time for you to change, time for you abandon your ally in North Korea. And I think they think that could be the prescription, the precursor to regime change in North Korea, if they could break China away. China does not want to do it, although you can see a debate right now going on within the Chinese establishment.
RT: Should the North Koreans be concerned about a preemptive strike?
BB: We can see from the S. Korean military, there’re divisions and debates and factions within the S. Korean military too. It was a military dictatorship for 30 years. It killed all the progressives, the communists. It said it would always liberate N. Korea from the communists. There’re sections of the S. Korean military that are egging things forward. They have an economic interest and a philosophical or ideological interest in creating more tensions. Of course there is a big part of the population that would prefer peace or a peaceful road to a reunification, rather than endless war.
RT: Isn't it in America's interests to keep a 'dangerous' North Korea there on the Peninsula to have a reason for re-balancing to the Asia-Pacific region?
BB: Well indeed. Ever since President Obama went to Australia and announced the so-called Asia Pivot, the US is loading up the Pacific with its aircraft, its nuclear-capable aircraft and a large part of its navy. Of course they need provocations, they need tension. It is good for business, it keeps the mega profits coming in into the military industrial complex but it gives the Pentagon the excuse, the pretext to do what it wants to do which is basically to encircle China.
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关于美国反战联盟“行动起来阻止战争并终结种族主义”组织（Act Now to Stop War and End Racism [ANSWER]）：
Act Now to Stop War and End Racism (ANSWER), also known as International A.N.S.W.E.R. and theANSWER Coalition, is aUnited States-based protestumbrella group consisting of many antiwar and civil rights organizations. Formed in the wake of the September 11th attacks, ANSWER has since helped to organize many of the largest anti-wardemonstrations in the United States, including demonstrations of hundreds of thousands against the Iraq War.[1][2] The group has also organized activities around a variety of other issues, ranging from the Israel/Palestine debate to immigrant rights toSocial Security to the extradition of Luis Posada Carriles.[citation needed]
ANSWER characterizes itself as anti-imperialist, and its steering committee consists ofsocialists, civil rights advocates, and left-wing or progressive organizations from theMuslim, Arab, Palestinian, Filipino, Haitian, and Latin American communities. Many of ANSWER's lead organizers had ties to the International Action Center, and Workers World Party at the time of ANSWER's founding.[3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.N.S.W.E.R.
