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强烈要求论坛管理员对RCP驱除(原因:破坏左派联盟) [复制链接]

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发表于 2012-9-13 00:50:36 |显示全部楼层
  支持楼主人民万岁,薄熙来作的事,对人民有好处,人民拥护,支持。胡温反薄,文强恨薄。
毛主席说,凡是敌人反对的我们就要拥护。

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发表于 2012-9-13 01:34:09 |显示全部楼层
人民万岁、海岩等网友,感谢你们关心红色中国网,我们对你们的意见也很重视。

目前,虽然多数左派网友在若干基本问题上立场和态度是一致的(比如反对资本主义复辟、反对美帝国主义、支持重庆探索和薄熙来等),但是左派内部在若干重要问题上存在分歧也是客观事实。作为一个主要红色网站,我们不可避免地要在一定程度上反映这种分歧。

尽管如此,对于极少数不是以讨论和探索真理为目的,而是以无原则攻击其他左派同志、实际起捣乱破坏作用的人,我们是坚持实行管理措施的。当然,在具体做法中,如何判断哪些人是捣乱破坏、哪些人仅是观点错误,是有一定难度的。我们在实际管理中,奉行的是尽量从宽的原则。在这个问题上,我个人认为,在马列托与RCP等人之间,还是有区别的。

对于RCP之流,我们是采取管理措施的。但是,目前也有一定的技术困难。由于我们现在服务器在境外,国内网友都要使用代理。这样,会出现多个国内网友共用一个IP地址的情况。因此,我们无法禁用IP地址,只能采取停止某个用户名的方法。这样就不能防止如RCP等人,再用其他用户名注册。

所以,在目前情况下,我们只能采取每隔一段时间,即禁用一些用户名的办法。这样,不能绝对防止RCP等人在短时间内以改头换面的方式出现。但是,还是可以予以一定限制。另外,在短时间内,让RCP等人表演一下,多少起一点反面教材的作用。

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发表于 2012-9-13 02:03:32 |显示全部楼层
支持楼主,言论是要自由,可是冷嘲热讽和辱骂都不是该有的行为,更不是一个革命者为之的。该封。

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发表于 2012-9-13 03:36:31 |显示全部楼层
压制言论是封建的东西或法西斯的东西,伪共坚持压制言论,必然要被人民推翻,因为言论自由是人类历史发展的方向和潮流。不用怕不同意见,让他们发表,才能证明我们有力量,强大!否则就像臭名昭著的法轮功网站“大纪元”一样了,他们与伪共一样,实行网管,压制是不同意见。越来越孤立!

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发表于 2012-9-13 06:53:36 |显示全部楼层
支持楼主,言论是要自由,可是冷嘲热讽和辱骂都不是该有的行为,更不是一个革命者为之的。该封。

   红色论坛在一定时期一定要有发言底线和基点,否则就会被破坏被逐步整垮! 现在已有例子。他们是一个政治组织,以言论自由为理由,目的搞垮左派阵营!

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发表于 2012-9-13 09:11:05 |显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 马列托主义者 于 2012-9-13 09:14 编辑

我再谈点看法:
1.言论自由一直是以国家政权层面谈的,论坛和媒体没有资格谈言论自由,这一点我必须强调,就是国家机器不能以言论而判人有罪,否则是封建的和法西斯的政权。我为什么在这里要强调这点呢,不是因为这里的网友要求封杀某ID,而是这些人如果当权必然要法西斯化,对言论治罪大搞文字狱或用国家机器压制言论(和伪共专制当局一样无耻),这就是苏联和中国60年来的事实,也是工人国家畸形化和最终丧失政权的主观原因之一。

2.学术自由是主要就媒体论坛学术研究机构等非国家主体而言的,这里不存在这些非国家主体能让人因言获罪的能力,不过他们可以压制言论,导致言论不畅的问题。

3特定的媒体论坛是有其底线和立场原则的,所以他有权根据其宗旨目的来监控言论,所以贵网完全有权限制言论和管理网友,但是我只是希望贵网能制定版规,大体规定哪类言论是允许的,哪类是不允许的,以便网友可以按章办事并决定是不是留下来或离开。
你看美国客观主义论坛就是说对于马克思主义的东西他们不欢迎但是可以严肃讨论:
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4为什么毛派的网站害怕异见分子占领毛派网站,可见毛派自己没有自信,你去美国客观主义网站宣言马克思主义试试,你一去就会遭到围攻似的“批驳”,因为那里聚集着大量客观主义者,有少数法轮功分子(比如)到毛派论坛来发言,你们这么'多“毛派分子讲一句话就能把他淹没,你们怕什么呢?你们为什么要通过压制言论的方式来保卫你们的网站呢

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发表于 2012-9-13 09:12:21 |显示全部楼层
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发表于 2012-9-13 09:18:46 |显示全部楼层
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发表于 2012-9-13 21:21:26 |显示全部楼层
   毛主席还和右派交朋友呢,是和同情中国共产党的右派朋友,赞同左派大联盟右派朋友。。。。
   不是吗?

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